ICOs Have Become a Parody of Themselves
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PR: Viola.AI, AI Singapore and Singapore Management University Announced Strategic Partnership
SINGAPORE - Viola.AI, the blockchain-powered dating and relationships AI has announced its strategic partnership with AI Singapore, a Singapore government initiative to catalyse, synergise and boost the nation's AI capabilities,…
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SINGAPORE - Viola.AI, the blockchain-powered dating and relationships AI has announced its strategic partnership with AI Singapore, a Singapore government initiative to catalyse, synergise and boost the nation's AI capabilities,…
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SINGAPORE - Viola.AI, the blockchain-powered dating and relationships AI has announced its strategic partnership with AI Singapore, a Singapore government initiative to catalyse, synergise and boost the nation's AI capabilities, and Singapore Management University…
Bitcoin in Brief Monday: Korean Exchange Hack Takes a Toll on Crypto Markets
The news of another hacked South Korean crypto exchange, widely blamed for the drops across the markets, is the main story in today’s edition of Bitcoin in Brief. Other subjects…
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Bitcoin in Brief Monday: Korean Exchange Hack Takes a Toll on Crypto Markets
The news of another hacked South Korean crypto exchange, widely blamed for the drops across the markets, is the main story in today’s edition of Bitcoin in Brief. Other subjects covered include a hospital where you can pay with tokens and a “blockchain” based…
Crypto and Virtual Reality Meet in Ken Liu’s Science Fiction
Science fiction writer Ken Liu has written an important short story, Bizantine Empathy, weaving as central to the narrative cryptocurrency and distributed ledger technology. Finally, crypto breaks out of its…
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Crypto and Virtual Reality Meet in Ken Liu’s Science Fiction
Science fiction writer Ken Liu has written an important short story, Bizantine Empathy, weaving as central to the narrative cryptocurrency and distributed ledger technology. Finally, crypto breaks out of its ghettoization in popular fiction, where it is the…
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The NEM Foundation to expand into South Korea, one of the biggest traders of its XEM cryptocurrency worth $2.3 billion
Accelerate Korea's FutureBlock Symposium provided NEM with the platform to expand our network of contacts and gain partners in the Korean and global scene.
#IDAP
Description
idap.io is an International Digital Asset Platform, which aims to provide a complete Derivatives Ecosystem for Crypto Assets, offering Futures, calendar & butterfly spreads, options, and swaps among major trading products. idap.io exchange also supports spot trading, P2P lending and ETFs. Additionally, it is providing an ICO venture fund with a focus on retail investors. idap.io platform provides a Point-and-Click Ladder based Trading Interface through its Desktop Application. Its simulator tool aids beginners in learning futures trading. idap.io will issue its own token, the IDAP token (IDAP), which will be based on Ethereum blockchain (ERC 20). IDAP token holders will get 50% discount in trading and management fees if paid in IDAP tokens. There will be zero trading fees for ICO contributors.
Dates
11.06.2018 - 30.08.2018
Campaign Budget
25 Million Tokens.
Budget allocation
Twitter: 14%, Facebook: 14%, Telegram: 2%, Youtube: 6%, Reddit: 4%, Creative: 18%, Translation: 16%, Signature: 22%, Exclusive Support: 4%.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456375
Description
idap.io is an International Digital Asset Platform, which aims to provide a complete Derivatives Ecosystem for Crypto Assets, offering Futures, calendar & butterfly spreads, options, and swaps among major trading products. idap.io exchange also supports spot trading, P2P lending and ETFs. Additionally, it is providing an ICO venture fund with a focus on retail investors. idap.io platform provides a Point-and-Click Ladder based Trading Interface through its Desktop Application. Its simulator tool aids beginners in learning futures trading. idap.io will issue its own token, the IDAP token (IDAP), which will be based on Ethereum blockchain (ERC 20). IDAP token holders will get 50% discount in trading and management fees if paid in IDAP tokens. There will be zero trading fees for ICO contributors.
Dates
11.06.2018 - 30.08.2018
Campaign Budget
25 Million Tokens.
Budget allocation
Twitter: 14%, Facebook: 14%, Telegram: 2%, Youtube: 6%, Reddit: 4%, Creative: 18%, Translation: 16%, Signature: 22%, Exclusive Support: 4%.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456375
#BitLumens
Description
Our mission is to offer a peer to peer platform where users adopt PV systems to reduce carbon emissions and get access to lighting and water in places where there is no power grid or proper access to water. Our platform allows the payment of the hardware in installments and using Bitlumens tokens (BITL). The system also allows microfinance and remittances in digital and fiat currencies while using the blockchain. Our goal is to create both financial return and positive measurable social and environmental impact. We gather Know your Customer (KYC) data for each client while giving access to electricity and water coming from renewable generating sources in Latin America. Providing solar energy to remote villages and in consequence reducing CO2 and health hazards, displacing kerosene lamps, disel generators, plastic, biomass and biofuels as lighting source, increasing customer savings, proliferating financial inclusion and in some cases providing employment. Our digital platform aims at offering distributed, managed by consensus and off grid smart energy solutions in low resource households. Our platform contributes to the UN SDGs, in particular with; Affordable and Clean Energy, Sustainable Cities and Communities, Good Health and Well-being, Gender Equality and Climate Action. Bitlumens GmbH is registered and incorporated in Zug, Switzerland.
Dates
11.06.2018 - 16.07.2018
Campaign Budget
950000 BLS.
Budget allocation
Newsletter: 2%, Twitter: 10.5%, Facebook: 10.5%, Content: 31.5%, Translation: 10.5%, Airdrop: 35%.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456150.0
Description
Our mission is to offer a peer to peer platform where users adopt PV systems to reduce carbon emissions and get access to lighting and water in places where there is no power grid or proper access to water. Our platform allows the payment of the hardware in installments and using Bitlumens tokens (BITL). The system also allows microfinance and remittances in digital and fiat currencies while using the blockchain. Our goal is to create both financial return and positive measurable social and environmental impact. We gather Know your Customer (KYC) data for each client while giving access to electricity and water coming from renewable generating sources in Latin America. Providing solar energy to remote villages and in consequence reducing CO2 and health hazards, displacing kerosene lamps, disel generators, plastic, biomass and biofuels as lighting source, increasing customer savings, proliferating financial inclusion and in some cases providing employment. Our digital platform aims at offering distributed, managed by consensus and off grid smart energy solutions in low resource households. Our platform contributes to the UN SDGs, in particular with; Affordable and Clean Energy, Sustainable Cities and Communities, Good Health and Well-being, Gender Equality and Climate Action. Bitlumens GmbH is registered and incorporated in Zug, Switzerland.
Dates
11.06.2018 - 16.07.2018
Campaign Budget
950000 BLS.
Budget allocation
Newsletter: 2%, Twitter: 10.5%, Facebook: 10.5%, Content: 31.5%, Translation: 10.5%, Airdrop: 35%.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456150.0
Another US Bitcoin Trader Faces Prison for Illegal Money Transmission
This week in Southern California a Los Angeles woman who called herself the ‘Bitcoin Maven’ will be sentenced this Monday after pleading guilty for illegal money transmission. According to law…
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This week in Southern California a Los Angeles woman who called herself the ‘Bitcoin Maven’ will be sentenced this Monday after pleading guilty for illegal money transmission. According to law…
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Another US Bitcoin Trader Faces Prison for Illegal Money Transmission
This week in Southern California a Los Angeles woman who called herself the ‘Bitcoin Maven’ will be sentenced this Monday after pleading guilty for illegal money transmission. According to law enforcement, the woman made close to $300,000 USD annually by…
Tezos Will Fork Before It’s Even Launched
Tezos, a blockchain best known for its off-chain drama rather than its on-chain utility, is set to fork. Internecine conflict has riven the Tezos community for months, spilling over into…
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Tezos, a blockchain best known for its off-chain drama rather than its on-chain utility, is set to fork. Internecine conflict has riven the Tezos community for months, spilling over into…
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Tezos Will Fork Before It’s Even Launched
Tezos, a blockchain best known for its off-chain drama rather than its on-chain utility, is set to fork. Internecine conflict has riven the Tezos community for months, spilling over into the courtroom and leading to the dismissal of foundation members. On…
Bitcoin in Brief Tuesday: POT Saves World, Coinbase Pumps ETC, Binance Wants EUR
The big story of the day is that a cannabis-themed cryptocurrency has been able to stage an international media coup, capturing the attention of news organizations around the world during…
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Bitcoin in Brief Tuesday: POT Saves World, Coinbase Pumps ETC, Binance Wants EUR
A cannabis-focused cryptocurrency has been able to stage an international media coup, capturing the attention of news organizations around the world during an historic moment. Additional stories covered in today’s edition of Bitcoin in Brief include Coinbase…
#Gese
Description
The Gese blockchain-platform is a worldwide database of all alcoholic beverages, allowing users to quickly select a quality product that matches their taste preferences. Searching for information has never been easier: now, to get a complete product content information, a consumer just needs to place his smartphone over the NFC-label attached to the bottle. Gese will help the consumer make the right choices even before going to the store: the application will recommend alcoholic drinks based on the user's past preferences, show current reviews and help find the most optimal options from local stores. The buyer can verify the product authenticity by simply taking the bottle from the counter and placing his smartphone over the NFC-tag. Subsequently, the Gese user will be able to get a reward for writing a review about the purchased beverage and handing over the used packaging at a designated recycling point. Thus, the platform accompanies the buyer not only before, but also after the product purchase, thereby encouraging his activity within the system.
Dates
09.04.2018 - 04.10.2018
Campaign Budget
2% tokens.
Budget allocation
Signature: 35%, Twitter: 10%, Facebook: 10%, Bloging: 30%, Translation: 10%, Telegram: 5%.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3287581
Description
The Gese blockchain-platform is a worldwide database of all alcoholic beverages, allowing users to quickly select a quality product that matches their taste preferences. Searching for information has never been easier: now, to get a complete product content information, a consumer just needs to place his smartphone over the NFC-label attached to the bottle. Gese will help the consumer make the right choices even before going to the store: the application will recommend alcoholic drinks based on the user's past preferences, show current reviews and help find the most optimal options from local stores. The buyer can verify the product authenticity by simply taking the bottle from the counter and placing his smartphone over the NFC-tag. Subsequently, the Gese user will be able to get a reward for writing a review about the purchased beverage and handing over the used packaging at a designated recycling point. Thus, the platform accompanies the buyer not only before, but also after the product purchase, thereby encouraging his activity within the system.
Dates
09.04.2018 - 04.10.2018
Campaign Budget
2% tokens.
Budget allocation
Signature: 35%, Twitter: 10%, Facebook: 10%, Bloging: 30%, Translation: 10%, Telegram: 5%.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3287581
#QUASA
Description
QUASA - The Fisrt Decentralized Platform of Cargo Transportation. We are changing all traditional platforms and offering solutions such problems as: bureaucracy, high commission costs and insurance limits, informational barriers and court costs. Our mission — is to help cargo owners, carriers, cargo receivers, and other suitable platforms to receive and move cargos on as profitable terms as possible.
Dates
18.11.2017 - 30.06.2018
Campaign Budget
2417500 tokens.
Budget allocation
Facebook: 20%, Twitter: 20%, Media: 39%, Translation and moderation: 20%, Kickico/Youtube/Telegram: 1%.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2424655.0
Description
QUASA - The Fisrt Decentralized Platform of Cargo Transportation. We are changing all traditional platforms and offering solutions such problems as: bureaucracy, high commission costs and insurance limits, informational barriers and court costs. Our mission — is to help cargo owners, carriers, cargo receivers, and other suitable platforms to receive and move cargos on as profitable terms as possible.
Dates
18.11.2017 - 30.06.2018
Campaign Budget
2417500 tokens.
Budget allocation
Facebook: 20%, Twitter: 20%, Media: 39%, Translation and moderation: 20%, Kickico/Youtube/Telegram: 1%.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2424655.0
Satoshi’s Place Is the New Battleground for Bitcoin Core and Cash Supporters
There aren’t many things that bitcoin core and bitcoin cash supporters can agree on. If the two camps were a couple, they could reasonably be described as having irreconcilable differences.…
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When Satoshi’s Place, a virtual graffiti wall powered by the Lightning Network (LN) sprang up, it was inevitable that the BTC and BCH factions would grab their spray cans and start a turf war.
Crypto Exchange Buda Subject of Sudden Banking Embargo in Colombia
Major Latin American bitcoin exchange, Buda, recently suddenly become the subject of a banking embargo in Colombia, according to local reports. Buda similarly experienced the termination of its Chilean banking…
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Major Latin American bitcoin exchange, Buda, recently suddenly become the subject of a banking embargo in Colombia, according to local reports. Buda similarly experienced the termination of its Chilean banking…
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Crypto Exchange Buda Subject of Sudden Banking Embargo in Colombia
Major Latin American bitcoin exchange, Buda, recently suddenly become the subject of a banking embargo in Colombia, according to local reports. Buda similarly experienced the termination of its Chilean banking services in March of this year.
As Bitcoin Futures Volumes Increase Credit Agencies Look to Downgrade Dealers
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As Bitcoin Futures Volumes Increase Credit Agencies Look to Downgrade Dealers
This past April, Cboe and CME Group's contract volumes were steadily rising. This month, while BTC-spot prices slide to significant lows, both futures products from these two companies are still seeing increased demand for contracts.
New Report Blames Tether for Bitcoin’s Bull Run
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New Report Blames Tether for Bitcoin’s Bull Run
Tether is back in the news thanks to a new report alleging it played a pivotal role in bitcoin’s mega-bull run last year.
Censorship of Cryptocurrency Discussions on Reddit Gets Kafkaesque
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Censorship of cryptocurrency discussions on some of the larger sub forums of Reddit has gotten to Kafkaesque levels recently.
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Hi. Just an update to all. I have been personally very busy but we are setting the machinery to move as a concerted project.
Other than Gibraltar, we are established now in 3 countries, I.e, Malaysia, Singapore, and Australia. Europe is being established and so is our presence in North America.
The team is being assembled and we should start to see more action in the next couple of months.
In the business development front, we are working with a few entities, and we should hope to roll out something by year end.
In terms of the readiness of the solution, and contrary to what many people believe, we are actually ready as a platform. If you recall from our whitepaper, we have 4 flavours. The one that is working now is the Private DFMS and NEM1 blockchain solution. In the pipeline is the development of SDK for the Catapult private solution.
So, all is well.
Regards to exchange listing. My experience says that listing in an exchange does not impact the price of a crypto too much. And this is taking the cue from XEM where listing in Binance and OKex did not impact the price of XEM. So, please do not be deluded too much. Why prices go up for some crypto is about a plan to pump the crypto. We do not wish to do that as we think this is not sustainable, and also, not right.
Patience hold virtue. And the plan is we are going to do it different from NEM.
Other than Gibraltar, we are established now in 3 countries, I.e, Malaysia, Singapore, and Australia. Europe is being established and so is our presence in North America.
The team is being assembled and we should start to see more action in the next couple of months.
In the business development front, we are working with a few entities, and we should hope to roll out something by year end.
In terms of the readiness of the solution, and contrary to what many people believe, we are actually ready as a platform. If you recall from our whitepaper, we have 4 flavours. The one that is working now is the Private DFMS and NEM1 blockchain solution. In the pipeline is the development of SDK for the Catapult private solution.
So, all is well.
Regards to exchange listing. My experience says that listing in an exchange does not impact the price of a crypto too much. And this is taking the cue from XEM where listing in Binance and OKex did not impact the price of XEM. So, please do not be deluded too much. Why prices go up for some crypto is about a plan to pump the crypto. We do not wish to do that as we think this is not sustainable, and also, not right.
Patience hold virtue. And the plan is we are going to do it different from NEM.