🍀 St. Patrick’s Day and the Creation of the World

St. Patrick’s Day is said to mark the death of St. Patrick and to commemorate the bringing of Christianity to Ireland. However, it occurs right around the time of the March Equinox (March 21) and near the Hindu equinox-related celebration of Holi (March 18). These mark the beginning of Spring.

As I’ve shown, the time around the March Equinox (perhaps connected to a nearby moon-event) would have marked the IE commemoration of the Creation of the world (which mythos Holi is also derived from).

As this is the beginning of Spring within the world, so it is the springing forth of the life of the cosmos from the primordial cosmic winter on a higher level, the creation of the world.

As St. Patrick’s Day is said to mark the bringing of Christianity to Ireland and the death of Patrick, the Irish Creation myth tells of the bringing of the Sons of Mil, the first ancestors of the Irish, to Ireland, and the death of Mac Greine (see: Ymir/Dyaus) and finally of Eber Finn (see: Odinn/Rudra). As such St. Patrick’s Day could be argued to be overlaid over this earlier mythos to some extent.

So today or in the next few days leading to the Equinox, pour a toast to your ancestors, the high gods, who came as the Sons of Mil to bring the Irish and their ancient ways to Ireland, and think of the primordial sacrifice of Father Sky, Mac Greine, and the subsequent death of Eber Finn, which in truth was the creation of a bridge back to divinity for those who followed, if its meaning is interpreted correctly.

The Celtic Creation Myth: https://taliesinsmap.blogspot.com/2021/11/the-celtic-creation-myth-branwen_21.html?m=1

- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
@solarcult

For my analysis of this possibly St. Patrick’s Day related myth, the Creation Myth, see my last posted video above.

Happy St. Patrick’s Day. Hail Eber Finn and Efnysien.


- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
@solarcult

New video is out.

The Gaelic figure Breoghan is Brahman, the Absolute.

His son Bile is Prajapati, god of the Cosmic Tree.

The REAL Celtic and Indo-European Creation Myth Part 2: Breoghan is Brahman (Celtic Mythology Decoded)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=puDDWZZYm5A

- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
@solarcult

IMPORTANT CORRECTION:

In my Creation Myth video I accidentally cited the Rig Veda creation myth hymn involving Father Sky raping his daughter as RV 10.161. This should have been 10.61.

A significant slip.

As scholars have long recognized, RV 1.71.5 also tells a shorter version of the same myth, with the same details, while making it clearer that this is Father Sky (Dyaus) who is the rapist of his daughter and who is shot by The Archer, Rudra-Agni. Father Heaven is here indicated by the words "Pitre" (Father) and "dive," which is simply the dative case of the word Dyaus, meaning "Heaven," as it is normally translated.

mahe | yat | pitre | īm | rasam | dive | kaḥ | ava | tsarat | pṛśanyaḥ | cikitvān | sṛjat | astā | dhṛṣatā | didyum | asmai | svāyām | devaḥ | duhitari | tviṣim | dhāt
- RV 1.71.5

Here are 3 major translations of this verse:

“When he [Agni] made the sap [=semen] for great Father Heaven, noting the caresses he stealthily crept up (on him).
The archer [Agni-Rudra] boldly loosed a missile at him (when) the god placed his “spark” in his own daughter.” - Jamison and Brereton

“When man poured juice to Heaven (Dive), the mighty Father, he knew and freed himself from close embracement.
The archer boldly shot at him his arrow, and the God threw his splendour on his Daughter.” - T.H. Griffith

“When he had made this sap of essence for the great Father Heaven, he came slipping downward, one close in touch, having knowledge. The Archer loosed violently on him his arrow of lightning, but the god set the flaming energy in his own daughter.” - Sri Aurobindo


Two lines later RV 1.71.8 continues the same myth but specifies in another case that this is "dyaur," Heaven, who is the rapist, dyaur being the nominative case form of "Dyauḥ/s." The Padapatha version of the text just simplifies this word to "dyauḥ" at this point.

ā yad iṣe nṛpatiṃ teja ānaṭ chuci reto niṣiktaṃ dyaur abhīke | agniḥ śardham anavadyaṃ yuvānaṃ svādhyaṃ janayat sūdayac ca

“When the (missile’s) sharp point reached the lord of men [=Agni] (for him) to release it, Heaven, at the moment of contact, (released) the blazing semen poured out.
Agni engendered the faultless young troop of good intention [=Aṅgirases] and sweetened it.” - RV 1.71.8, Jamison and Brereton


Thus we can see that in one of Father Sky’s only narrative myths in the Rig Veda he rapes his own daughter and is shot by Rudra-Agni, resulting in the ancestors of humans (Angirases).

Are you sure you know Dyaus?

See also: Ouranos, Caelus, Ymir, Matholwch, Mac Greine


- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
@solarcult

Commenter Lugh Lamhfada summarized my Celtic Creation myth videos very nicely. Thank you to him and other commenters for watching and commenting so perceptively.


“Now I have a better understanding of the Celtic creation myth based on my understanding of how Odin (Rudra/Efnysien/Eber Finn), Hœnir (Shiva/Nisien) and Lothur (Agni/Manawydan) split Ymir into both sky and earth. However, the Norse case is slightly different as Ymir would be a hermaphrodite due to his affiliation of being separated into earth and sky. Ymir is also Deus Otiosus as he is no longer mentioned in the Norse mythology.

While the Celtic creation myth is slightly different. The Norse creation myth starts with Ginnungagap while the Irish starts with Breoghan who is the counterpart to Brahman. Breoghan sits upon his tower during winter (the beginning of the cosmic cycle) and his son Ith sees Ireland (Erin). Ith goes to Ireland and dies. Ith climbing down from the tower is a metaphor of how he emanates from Breoghan. Eriu, Fodla, and Banba (manifestations of earth and the seasons) marry the grandsons of the Dagda ie. MacGreine, Mac Cecht and Mac Cuil. Their marriage union is the cryptic union of earth and sky. Which parallels the Greek creation myth where Ouranos (Father Sky) tightly presses on Gaia (Mother Earth) and thus she has Cronus (Rudra) castrate the two so the earth and sky become separate instead of one. Eber Finn and his allies kill the grandsons of the Dagda and Eriu. This represents the separation of earth and sky, just as in the Greek version and Welsh.

The Welsh creation myth is more detailed. Matholwch (Welsh An Dagda[/ Mac Greine]) marries Bronwen (Welsh Eriu) and this upsets Efnysien. Efnysien along with Manawydan kill Matholwch for his abusive relationship with Bronwen. This killing is also the separation of earth and sky. Gwern being thrown into the fire matches the Vedic creation hymn where Dyaus' fiery seed spills out of him once he is separated from his female other half due to Rudra-Agni shooting him with his arrow. His seed lands on the fire altar, the primordial sacrifice. Gwern being thrown into the fire represents this fire sacrifice as well.

This is what I understand thus far. The Norse creation myth is similar to the Irish, Welsh and Greek creation myth but with Ymir being a hermaphroditic being due to his association with becoming the earth and sky.



We are truly blessed to have not only one but two Celtic creation myths and even the Celts have a Brahman figure "Breoghan" the absolute, whence all the gods, men, and existence emanate from.”


Here are the links to parts 1 and 2 in case you missed them.

Part 1: Efnysien is Rudra
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0SqgQDxRfmM

Part 2: Breoghan is Brahman
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=puDDWZZYm5A


- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
@solarcult

New video is out.

The Gaelic God The Dagda is the Wind God, Vedic Vayu.

In addition to this, however, he has some possible Father Sky myths, and it is his grandsons who are the triple-form Father Sky of the Creation Myth.


The Dagda is Vayu-Dyaus, the Wind God of the Sky (Celtic Mythology Decoded)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8NEFdYXukCU

- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
@solarcult

Here is a link to my Twitter account, which is a backup contact for our channel and my own work.

https://mobile.twitter.com/StructuralMyth1

Follow me there for updates and discussions about Celtic and Indo-European myth and religion.
I am currently working on my next book, covering Cernunnos, Bile, Derg, Creiddylad, the Celtic Brahman called “Breoghan,” and more.


My first book sold nearly 450 copies in its first year, from January to January. This is more than the average legacy publishing company nonfiction release, and much more than niche academic works sell, and I did almost zero promotion other than broadcasting from here.
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It is my hope that one day soon Celtic pagans will be able to organize to a greater degree than they have thus far, by seeing that they have a crystal clear theology in their myths, on which a full tradition is waiting to be (re)built.

I set out on this project in order to help rebuild such a tradition for my children, and I believe the spread of knowledge is unstoppable when the gods wish it to come to light.


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@solarcult

Thank you to these gentlemen for reading. The Celtic awakening can’t be stopped.

Bought this book on the suggestion of @Vivisectorian after asking about resources to study Celtic and specifically Irish Paganism. I'm not even close to finishing it yet because I like to cross reference and further study many of the topics it discusses. It's been an absolute gold mine so far though and answers many of the questions I had but couldn't find knowledgeable answers to. Highly recommended for anyone looking to learn more about ancient Celtic deities and religion.

This incredible Anglo Saxon sword pommel was recently unearthed in Brightstone, Isle of Wight, 6-7th Century. The inscription makes me think of the Sigdrífumál…

“Victory-runes learn, if thou longest to win, And the runes on thy sword-hilt write;
Some on the furrow, and some on the flat, And twice shalt thou call on Tyr.”

“Sigrúnar skaltu kunna, ef þú vilt sigr hafa,
ok rísta á hjalti hjörs, sumar á véttrimum,
sumar á valböstum, ok nefna tysvar Týr.”

Note how the Tir rune is boldly carved twice; once on each side.
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New video is out.


The Gaelic God Aengus Og is a god of the transition between day and night, and between night and day, possibly aligned with the morning and evening star.

He is the representative of the “Third Function,” connected to fertility and the producer class, and his confrontation with Elcmar, the king of the gods, to take the Brugh na Boinne, is the Gaelic parallel of Freyr and the Vanir’s battle against the Aesir or the Asvins' confrontation with Indra.

The Celtic Aesir-Vanir War

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mVgWQ_YUbeU

- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
@solarcult

The Indo-European cosmogony for how the universe and world was created, as we can reconstruct from the various pagan daughter cultures, is as follows;

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In the beginning there was nothing, no sea nor waves, nor sand nor earth, nor sky above, just a great abyss (Chasm, Ginnungagap). The eventual merging of heat and ice brought about formation of life into being, but divine creation takes the form of the verb *dʰeh (English do, Latin facere, Sanskrit dádhāti, Greek títhēnai), to make, set, establish. The gods establish and uphold cosmic law, and with that comes the creation of man, whose earthly rites are counterparts to cosmic rites enacted by the gods. The world of man is the world bound by the law of the gods.

It is important here to add that paganism is eternal, outside of time and space, not based in real-time history like Christianity, and so will be different for different peoples, in this case Indo-European paganism will be different to that of hunter gatherers and even pre-human people because it is founded on early agrarianism, horse domestication and animal husbandry, thus this plays an important role in its description and the role of humanity.

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Manu, the first man, and his giant twin, Yemo, cross the cosmos, accompanied by the primordial cow. Manu sacrifices his own giant brother to create the cosmos from his body, often with the help of heavenly gods (Dyaus-Phtér, the Sky-Father; Perkwūnos (sTenaros), the storm-god and the Divine Horse-Twins) and create the world and other human beings, in established castes or social classes, from his remains.

Manu, for this cosmic sacrifice, therefore becomes the first priest, but his dead brother, Yemo, becomes the first King, sometimes also ruler of the underworld. In some versions the primordial cow was the original sacrifice, and gave birth to animals and plants. In Norse myth Auðhumla is suckled by Ymir (Yemo), and in Roman myth Romulus and Remus (*Jemos) suckle a she-wolf in place of the cow, as creation of the world is historicised into the creation of Rome.

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The gods offer the third man, Tritó, a gift of cattle (remember that cattle is literally the backbone of life, law and order in Indo-European society). This cattle is then stolen by a three-headed serpent named Ngʷʰi (lit. Un-Serpent), the serpent of negation against the cosmic order which the gods uphold and maintain.

While Tritó first suffers against this serpent, he is fortified by an intoxicating drink (Mead, Soma/Haoma) and helped either by the storm-god or by Virile-Man, Hnḗr (Germanic Nerþuz, Greek anér/andros, Irish nert), where they overcome the monster in a cave or mountain, take back the cattle and restore cosmic order. For this Tritó is recognised as the first warrior, and through heroic deeds maintains the cycle of mutual giving between the gods and humanity.

Thus in Germanic lore we know of Hymir's fight with Jǫrmungandr (cosmic-staff), the World-Wyrm, aided by Þunor/Þórr/Donar. We know that Tritó gives his name to Þriði (Third), which seems to be an hypostasis of Óðin questioned by King Gylfi in Gylfaginning, but it is more likely that this really belongs to Þórr, who fights against Jǫrmungandr at Ragnarǫk, as well as other lawless and anti-cosmic giants, upholding cosmic order and divine law.

Thus is it so for Zeus and Typhon, Apollo and Python, Herakles and Hydra, Perun and Veles, Indra and Vritra, Fereydun ('Tritó) and Zahhak, Dian Cecht and Miach, Vahagn and Vishap and many more, some outside of Indo-European tradition such as Horus and Set, Ninurta and Anzu, Tarhunna and Illuyanka, Ba'al and Yamm, Marduk and Tiamat or Yahweh and Leviathan. In many of these the divine conquest of cosmic order and law over the serpent of chaos is itself the act of creation. Quasi-historical or legendary heroes uphold this cosmic tradition such as Sigurðr/Siegfried, Beowulf, Dobrynya Nikitich and of course St. George continue to maintain this ancient tradition, not only of slaying a dragon, but by implication returning the cattle and upholding the cosmic order from the forces of negation.

I hope this response will be taken as a friendly one. I’m duty bound to chime in here and say that this often mentioned *Yemo and *Mannus reconstruction of the PIE Creation Myth, while useful for getting people to think about reconstructing the primordial myth, is deeply flawed. In the end it misleads people who seek an accurate picture of the creation myth. Recently, I jokingly compared it to a kind of terrorism against comparative mythology, since it is so convincing a reconstruction that it has become a meme that almost cannot be dislodged from the PIE discourse.

I have been working on a full debunk of this myth, coincidentally, and it will be out in the next month or so.
My reconstruction of the Celtic and IE Creation Myth, which I’ve already put out in video and article form, also shows the outline of the actual Creation Myth of the ancient Indo-Europeans, and thus the alternative picture of the PIE creation myth is already out there and plain to see.

The *Yemo and *Mannus reconstruction was created by very respected scholars and I too once assumed it to be reliable. However, it is not linguistically or mythologically well-founded or even coherent when subjected to close analysis.

Let’s not waste decades of our time thinking from a false theological basis, when it can be remedied with available knowledge.

For example, Bruce Lincoln (the author of the theory) even admits that the names Ymir and Yama come from roots that are “intimately related”, but not exact formal matches. As our admin Josephus has elaborated, Ymir’s root implies he is “double”, while Yama’s implies he is a “twin”, and that while similar, a “double” being is not the same as a single “twin”, and these are importantly different: as Ymir is Sky and Earth in one, he is two-in-one (double), while Yama is one-in-two (a twin). Josephus provided another good illustration: guilty and guiltless both clearly come from the same root, but mean very different things, things that WOULD NOT be confused by anyone, let alone ancient bards and priests.

The glaring mythological differences between Yama and Ymir then cause Lincoln to have to fudge many things together to finally arrive at what is an entirely fictional creation myth. His reconstruction simply never happened, and was not the basis of any ancient belief. Hence why not a single existing branch has the whole myth as it is described in the *Yemo and *Mannus reconstruction.

Not a single branch could keep the myth straight?

Remember that this reconstruction claims that Buri and Borr, two extremely important gods, weren’t actually the progenitors of Odin. It claims they were essentially made up as fillers, since Odin and Ymir were supposedly first beings in the PIE myth. It claims that Ymir and Odin were really twin brothers originally, but our texts say they are neither brothers nor twins. Some things change, sure, but this one in fact never did: Odin and Ymir were never brothers or twins, and this can be shown with the same comparative method used by Lincoln, simply by pointing out that there are better comparisons that explain the data much more simply.

The *Yemo and *Mannus claim in the end is that the Norse creation is basically a jumble of pieces inherited in a confused way from the earlier PIE theology. But if this claim is actually not true then it is somewhat insulting, and exactly how untrue it is can be clearly demonstrated. Occam’s Razor favors the argument that the Norse Creation myth hasn’t actually changed so much since PIE times, and in truth the Norse and Celtic creation myths are amazingly close representations of the PIE creation with very little changed at all.

The Proto-Norse and PlE “Odin” (=Rudra) was always the son of “Borr” (=Kama) and grandson of “Buri” (=Prajapati), and “Ymir” was never his twin or even brother.

The Norse theologians had a precise and intentional theology, embedded in the genealogy from Buri down to Odin, with Ymir arising separately.

I will elaborate all of this in clear proofs when time permits.

- O’Gravy, The Sun Riders
@solarcult

On Agni and Rudra

see: Lodurr and Odin, Manawydan and Efnysien, Manannan and Finn


“Of Agni and Rudra, cooperating powers to the point of identity, Agni is the first-born, and their roles are not always reversible. Agni acts in Rudra and Rudra exceeds him in intensity. He is Agni’s incandescence.”

[…]

The connection of Rudra and Agni circles a point of identity. Agni is Rudra. This homology, stated again and again in sacred scripture (RV.1.27.10; 2.1.6; 3.2.5; 4.3.1; 8.61.3; TS.1.3.14.1; 1.5.1.1; 2.6.6.6; 5.4.3.1; 5.4.10.5; 5.5.74; ŚB.1.7.3.8; 6.1.3.10; 9.1.1.1; MBh.3.218.27), is one of nature, not of person. Inasmuch as his nature is that of fire, Rudra is Agni.

[…]

Indeed, Rudra is Agni and Agni is Rudra (TS.2.2.10.4; 3.5.5.2; 5.5.74; cf. MBh.13.146.1-2). They are one in nature, though not in intensity. Rudra is the terrible, frightening, quintessential Agni. He is the fury of Fire (TS.2.2.2.3). Like fire, but fiercer and even “more luminous, wild, tremendous Rudra is fire, lightning, and the sun (MBh.13.146.4). Fire is the power of illumination and is concentrated in him. He burns; he is atrocious, and full of heat; like fire he devours flesh, blood, and marrow (MBh.13.146.7). The Wild God—the essence of fire—is in the fire, in the waters, in the plants; he has entered all beings (KāS.40.5; TS.5.5.9.3; cf. AT.7.87.1). Inwardly he marks them with his signature. “The names of the different manifestations of Rudra . . . should be contemplated as written in fire inside the different parts of the body” (cf. AP.293.43-47).

[…]

Rudra is Agni; he is the fierce essence of fire. Agni is Rudra’s mildest form. Fierce, all-pervading, all-enlivening, all-consuming, Rudra holds the world in his power. He does not serve it, as does Agni—the fire of the hearth and of the altar.

[…]

Though one in nature, Agni and Rudra face in opposite directions: Agni’s concern is the life of man, and Rudra’s concern is man’s freedom from the contingencies of life, his reintegration into the absolute as it was and is from before creation.”

- Stella Kramrisch, The Presence of Siva

It's out!

https://youtu.be/XLPL-tqXvWk