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https://apostasynow.net/2014/09/28/apostasy-now-ep-24-john-and-zoe-of-the-anti-social-justice-podcast-anp-and-asjp-sitting-in-a-tree/
Apostasy Now Ep 24 - John And Zoe of the Anti-Social Justice Podcast: ANP and ASJP Sitting in a Tree..