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https://divergentoptions.org/2018/10/21/episode-0008-guest-tamara-cofman-wittes-human-rights-national-security-the-smell-of-victory-podcast-by-divergent-options/
**CORRECTED** Episode 0008: Guest Tamara Cofman Wittes / Human Rights & National Security (The Smell of Victory Podcast by Divergent Options)