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https://steveblank.com/2015/07/20/how-we-changed-the-way-the-u-s-government-commercializes-science-part-1-of-episode-6-on-sirius-xm-channel-111-errol-arkilic/
How we changed the way the U.S. government commercializes science: Errol Arkilic -- Part 1 of Episode 6 on Sirius XM Channel 111