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https://wouterdeheij.com/2017/01/10/innovation-policy-2-0-part3-interview-with-wouter-de-heij-2014-an-inspiring-lecture-by-jonas-ridderstrale-2010/
Innovation policy 2.0 (part3) : Interview with Wouter de Heij (2014) & an inspiring lecture by Jonas Ridderstrale (2010)