https://www.naiz.eus/en/hemeroteca/gara/editions/2020-05-23/hemeroteca_articles/ortuzar-aconseja-a-sanchez-no-cambiar-al-pnv-por-eh-bildu?slug=ortuzar-aconseja-a-sanchez-no-cambiar-al-pnv-por-eh-bildu